Cathedrals and More Cathedrals

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by Kerry M. Denten

I was getting ready yesterday to go out to my Grandmother's 95th
birthday celebrations. While I was in that "autopilot" mode you get
into while showering and dressing, I found my mind wandering to
considering some of the larger organised churches around
Australia and other parts of the world and was surprised by what
the Lord showed me.

I was considering Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas when my
mind then meandered from the huge Minster (or Cathedral) in York,
England to St Andrews Cathedral in Sydney. Then my thinking
wandered to the Crystal Cathedral, then to Paradise Community
Church in Adelaide, South Australia, to Christian City Church and
Hillsong Church in Sydney .. and here is what the Lord said .

Five hundred years ago a man named Martin Luther protested
against the injustice of the prosperity of the Roman Catholic
Church at the expense of its adherents. He sounded an alarm over
wrong doctrine and ugly practice. He heralded the need for men
and women everywhere to discover that their salvation did not
depend on their commitment to an institutional church but that they
could be saved by grace and justified by faith through their own
relationship with God.

Luther understood that, at the literal end of the day, we would each
stand alone before God to answer for our relationship with Him and
NOT our membership of a church like that of the Roman Catholics
as was his "target" some 500 years ago.

Now, why would God show me all of those churches in the UK,
America and here in Australia to then go on to say something like
that? Here is what I now understand:

For all of our dogmatic adherence to our protestant ways, the
church of today (including the supposedly free charismatics and
Pentecostals) are just as guilty, as the Roman Catholics were, of
building cathedrals of perverted prosperity at the expense of their adherents.

Sure, we don't build cathedrals in the traditional sense anymore,
but they are cathedrals nonetheless! A traditional cathedral was
always known for its imposing size; it's ability to house thousands
at a time; it's majestic music and huge choirs; and its
contemporary opulence.

If that be the case, please tell me how the aforementioned
churches are any different to the Catholic Cathedrals of old?

1. They are Known for their Imposing Splendour.

Recently my wife and I saw the tail-end of an episode of "Your Best
Life" with Joel Osteen only to see him dedicating Lakewood
Church's new facility; an ex-sports stadium capable of seating
about 10,000 people at a time. I was really saddened to consider
how excited these people were about dedicating a monolithic
meeting room that would only be used for about 12 hours a week.
Closer to home, it's astounding how Hillsong Church's new Bella
Vista campus is the one place many Christians consider a "must-
see" when they visit Sydney.

2. They are Known for their Ability to House Thousands at a Time

Regardless of whether it is a modern conference-type facility or a
sandstone edifice, whichever way you cut it, the minute we build a
facility capable of housing thousands of adherents at a time for the
primary intent of "having church", we have built a cathedral.

3. They are Known for their Majestic Music and Huge Choirs

Here in Australia, the best examples of modern cathedrals in this
regard are Hillsong Church and Christian City Church in Sydney.
These two "local" churches are known for their magnificent music
and their choirs. In fact, I find it tragically hysterical that almost
every church that has tried to adopt their model or style of worship
now has a choir, a choir stand and a choir leader . ".. but we're
not bound by liturgy. We're spirit-filled and free".

4. They are Known for their Contemporary Opulence.

One of these churches recently spent in excess of $300,000 on
state-of-the-art digital audio mixing desks for use in their services.
Others have installed the very best commercial quality theatre
seating. In others, the lighting rig alone rivals that of a major rock
concert. Lakewood Church even features a huge slowly rotating
globe as a backdrop for the televising of their services.

I'm not trying to be critical of these mega-churches simply to be
seen to have a post-modernist whinge. What I am trying to
communicate is that many over the centuries have fought with their
very lives and reputations to see us, the church, break free of the
things that the Roman Catholic church held so dear until the time
of Martin Luther's protests. Today we claim to be living freely in the
liberty of those protests and yet we have simply allowed ourselves
to become ensnared in the very things that trapped the men who
led the church after Constantine got his hands on it back in about
300 AD and those are the same traps that ultimately robbed us of
the purity and power of the early church.

Thomas Aquinas is reported as having had an audience with the
Pope of his time. When he was ushered into the Pope's presence,
the Pope gestured saying, "Look Thomas. Never again will we have
to say 'silver and gold I do not have'
". To which Thomas Aquinas
responded, "And neither will we ever again be able to say 'in the
name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise and walk
'". Ouch!

When will we ever learn that to build a tower supposedly as an
example of how great God is when in reality it's a legacy to how
great we are, will only result in God coming and scattering it and
us once again as He did on the plains of Shinar?

There is a consistent theme of "God-made" vs "man-made" that
runs through the Scriptures, but it's so subtle you may not have
noticed how serious God is about it.

In the days of old, God always called for altars to be made from
uncut, God-made stone. When Uzza steadied the Ark of the
Covenant on the cart, he lost his life because David was instructed
to carry it on the shoulders of God-made men, not on a man-made
cart. Jesus told Peter that He would build His church upon His
revelation about the God-made Christ .. not upon Peter as a man-
made Pope. Further, the church is made up of God- made living
stones with a God-made living Saviour as its chief cornerstone. We,
God-made men and women, ARE the temple (the Holy of Holies) of
the Holy Spirit.

Do you see it?

My Aussie friend Phil Marshall, who pastors a church in Edmonton,
Canada told me recently that, in the five years to 2005, the church
in North America has spent nearly 25 billion dollars on building
programs! Recently Dr Robert Schuller, founder of the Crystal
Cathedral, retired. When asked by Larry King what he would be
doing with his time during retirement, Schuller replied by telling
King that he would dedicate himself to establishing a fund that
would ensure the Crystal Cathedral would always stand and that
the property would never be sold.

When will we begin to live for the things that so many others have
given their lives for over the two millennia since Christ first showed
the way that a life must be lived, a death must be died and a God-
made church must be built?

We must stop investing millions of dollars into structures that are
ultimately of no real value to the Kingdom of God. Sure, we might
gather in them, and people may even become believers, get healed
or delivered in them, but at what cost to the Kingdom? We invest
millions, even billions of dollars into building buildings when we
should be investing it into building lives. We say that's what the
building is ultimately designed for, but when will we stop fooling
ourselves? What it so frequently comes down to is "mine's bigger
than yours".

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not against buildings for
Kingdom purposes. In some cases we need them. Heck, I live in a
building that's used for Kingdom purposes .. it's called my home.

I'm not against the specific churches I've already named nor any
church for that matter. I'm not having a rant or making an attack
because I "have issues" with organised religion. I have given much
of the last 30 years to serving the Body of Christ in one form or
another .. as an ordained minister, as an itinerant prophetic teacher,
as a general gopher, a church planter and more. I am passionate
about the church.

However, I am motivated to sound a God-inspired alarm for ministries
and churches to stop continually perpetuating the production of the
number one world-wide killer of genuine Christian community and
missional activity just to be seen to have made it among their
peers. That number one world-wide killer? The building program ..
especially as it relates to building mega-church structures.

I remember reading that Smith Wigglesworth once said .. "I am a
thousand times bigger on the inside". I can relate to that. Now that
I'm over 40, my body is changing. Physically I'm a little more 'solid'
(some might rudely say 'portly') than I used to be. As a result, I
sometimes like to joke with people that "I'm a temple of the Holy
Ghost and I'm putting on extensions!" But all jokes aside, the only
building program that God is truly interested in is for us to
corporately work to build who we are in Him, because this is the
only God-made place He Himself desires to dwell in all His fullness.

In the end, if we must build cathedrals, may God be pleased to fill
the expanse of our growing and maturing spirits and may they,
and only they ..being fit together with one another in love .. be the
cathedrals of praise we see built now and in the future.

For original source of this article email:   mario@storm-harvest.asn.au 

4 Responses to “Cathedrals and More Cathedrals”

  1. D Torti Says:

    interesting…
    not winning me though. will post a proper response shortly. Surely when you look at how the queen responded to the temple that Solomon built; at the granduer of the temple, even the materials used for the tabernacle - they all spoke of God’s greatness. However, more importantly, they were a meeting place for God’s people and God - a place of interaction, learning, discipleship, worship and dare I say it, fellowship.

  2. Josh Says:

    so what do we say of these churches that you mention

    do we denounce miracles worked in these buildings
    do we discredit thei annointing
    do we discredit thei leaderhsip?
    at what point do you stop honouring men and women of god for their small churches then start dishonouring them … is it 50 members, 100 members, 1000 members?

    brother … i don’t feel this is a fruitful topic of discussion … lets go love someone

  3. Brett Jacobsen Says:

    Response to Josh,

    I didn’t write this article but I did post it on the site as I thought it was a worthy contribution to the current literature that God is using to free people from desert Christianity.

    You said: “do we denounce miracles worked in these buildings”

    -God’s miracle working has nothing to do with “these buildings” but rather the hungry hearts and the manifestation of His Spirit. Jesus said “Go you into all the world [...] And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.” (Mark 16:15-18) Huddling the saints together in these happy hideaway halls actually retards most of the saints in their calling, which is to “go” and do miracles whilst preaching the gospel. Many modern “ministers” parade around the stage claiming the kudos for miracles that God has done, by just lingering in the limelight rather than opting for obscurity.

    “do we discredit their anointing”

    -Buildings don’t have anointing, people do.

    “do we discredit their leadership?”

    -Most of the leadership involved in both mega and minor churches is extra-biblical and counterproductive to a worthy advancement of the kingdom of God. Again, these systemic sanctuaries are “headed up” by man made positions that bask in the limelight as they become stage strutting superiors, taking the emphasis off the pew perching patrons who should be the activated army. Feel free to read my ‘Underground Leadership’ articles on this site for clarity on New Testament leadership in stark contrast to much of modern church leadership.

    “at what point do you stop honouring men and women of god for their small churches then start dishonouring them … is it 50 members, 100 members, 1000 members?”

    -Jesus and the early church modelled the way to live out the kingdom of God every day. Neither of them participated in the temple, synagogue or cathedral like systems or organisations, but rather met primarily “house to house” as well as in many public places, including the temple court. It was a number of humanistic decisions by people like Ignatius and Constantine that huddled the saints together in congregations, eventually outlawing house gatherings and other gospel get togethers hat didn’t have a “clergy” member present. This is the Godless roots of congregational gatherings, whether 50, 100 or 1000 plus. Because these “churches” are outside of God’s design for the New Testament church, corruption is inevitable. Of course their will be leaders who are more naturally talented at building an organisation, hence the mega churches, but we do err to suppose that it is God blessing their work as God only blesses the “true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.” (Heb 8:2) God only blesses and builds His spiritual building, not man’s.

    You finished by saying: “brother … i don’t feel this is a fruitful topic of discussion … lets go love someone”

    -It is a fruitful topic that is surfacing more and more as the Lord has His way and as the saints grow more and more discontent with the kingdom of man masquerading as the kingdom of God. I agree we should focus on loving people, but that invariably requires speaking the truth and exposing the false.

    I seriously doubt that the author of this article is motivated by anything other than love in writing this piece as he is surely opening at least a few eyes to the bondage of man’s ways.

    Peace
    Bretto

  4. Brett Jacobsen Says:

    Response to D. Torti.

    Hey Torti,

    Sorry or the tardy response, been busy.

    I look forward to your “proper response”, but in the mean time:

    You said: “Surely when you look at how the queen responded to the temple that Solomon built; at the grandeur of the temple, even the materials used for the tabernacle - they all spoke of God’s greatness.”

    - First: If you examine the text (2 Chron 9:1-8) you will notice that it was the wisdom of God in Solomon that she was taken by, although she did also mention the temple and it’s trappings. Wisdom is a spiritual attribute from the Lord (of course if it’s not worldly but Godly wisdom 1 Cor 3:19) which is greater than material things.

    Also, are we to admire the queen of Sheba’s worldly views and adopt them for our own; was she not a pagan queen? It has been recorded that “power and riches could not satisfy Sheba’s soul, for she possessed an ardent hunger for truth and wisdom. Before her visit to Solomon, she says to her people:”
    “I desire wisdom and my heart seeketh to find understanding. I am smitten with the love of wisdom…. for wisdom is far better than treasure of gold and silver… It is sweeter than honey, and it maketh one to rejoice more than wine, and it illumineth more than the sun…. It is a source of joy for the heart, and a bright and shining light for the eyes, and a giver of speed to the feet, and a shield for the breast, and a helmet for the head… It makes the ears to hear and hearts to understand.”

    “…And as for a kingdom, it cannot stand without wisdom, and riches cannot be preserved without wisdom…. He who heapeth up gold and silver doeth so to no profit without wisdom, but he who heapeth up wisdom - no man can filch it from his heart… I will follow the footprints of wisdom and she shall protect me forever. I will seek asylum with her, and she shall be unto me power and strength.”

    “Let us seek her, and we shall find her; let us love her, and she will not withdraw herself from us, let us pursue her, and we shall overtake her; let us ask, and we shall receive; and let us turn our hearts to her so that we may never forget her.” [1]

    Even she saw the supremacy of celestial attributes over material accumulation and grandeur. Don’t believe every view that you’ve heard regurgitated by rapacious out-of-context prosperity preachers.

    Also, are we to take the same demonic route as many of the evil false religions of the world, like Buddhism and the likes, which have golden temples and idols everywhere while the common people are stricken with poverty. One only needs to take a trip to Myanmar (Burma), among other places, to see this atrocity being played out on a grand scale.

    You also said: “However, more importantly, they were a meeting place for God’s people and God - a place of interaction, learning, discipleship, worship and dare I say it, fellowship.”

    - You will not find NT scripture that even hints that we are to have these Constantinian cathedrals as our gathering place for “interaction, learning, discipleship, worship and fellowship.” In fact, it is both biblically and statistically proven that our past, and sadly present for most, congregational structures have severely retarded the most part of the Christian population, in varying degrees, form maturing in a worthy manner in the very biblical activities you mentioned. Neither Jesus, nor the first century church, assembled in such manner but rather lived perpetual spiritual lives throughout society, meeting primarily from house to house to break bread and for “interaction, learning, discipleship, worship and fellowship” among other things.

    “Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?” (Acts 7:48-49)

    We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. (Heb 8:1-2)

    I didn’t write the article in question, and I don’t think it is thorough enough in its identification of worldly systems in the “church”, i.e. senior pastors, hideaway halls (congregations) and the like, but I do think that he nailed some good points.

    Peace
    Bretto

    [1] Budge, Sir Ernest A. Wallis, translator, THE QUEEN OF SHEBA AND HER ONLY SUN MENYELEK, (THE KEBRA NEGAST), Oxford University Press, London, 1932, chapter 24.

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