Comments on: Unless You Fall into the Ground and Die http://www.christisall.org/2008/01/17/unless-you-fall-into-the-ground-and-die-by-brett-jacobsen/ Making Him Our Focus, His Word Our Foundation Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:13:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Steven http://www.christisall.org/2008/01/17/unless-you-fall-into-the-ground-and-die-by-brett-jacobsen/#comment-14025 Steven Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:57:56 +0000 http://www.christisall.org/?p=181#comment-14025 Amen thats the truth!!! In response to Jameses question: Does a grain of wheat choose to fall? I would have to say in apllying this scripture to us as saints dying daily: Yes and No. Yes meaning: We have to choose to pray, choose to read our bible, choose to preach the gospel, choose not to lust etc, etc... And even though where prompted by the Spirit we have to choose to listen and obey as these things are not often fitting in our busy day to day routines. So we've got to die to our will and choose the will of God. No meaning: We being the clay and God being the potter and just like Job and many others it seems as if God helps us to die in order that we may see different aspects of His character and experience a greater measure of His fullness. Either way all we got is JESUS. Amen thats the truth!!!
In response to Jameses question: Does a grain of wheat choose to fall?
I would have to say in apllying this scripture to us as saints dying daily:
Yes and No.

Yes meaning: We have to choose to pray, choose to read our bible, choose to preach the gospel, choose not to lust etc, etc… And even though where prompted by the Spirit we have to choose to listen and obey as these things are not often fitting in our busy day to day routines. So we’ve got to die to our will and choose the will of God.

No meaning: We being the clay and God being the potter and just like Job and many others it seems as if God helps us to die in order that we may see different aspects of His character and experience a greater measure of His fullness.

Either way all we got is JESUS.

]]> By: Brett Jacobsen http://www.christisall.org/2008/01/17/unless-you-fall-into-the-ground-and-die-by-brett-jacobsen/#comment-12063 Brett Jacobsen Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:24:54 +0000 http://www.christisall.org/?p=181#comment-12063 Response to James, Are you talking hyper-calvinism? Of course we did not choose Jesus, He chose us (John 15:16) however, we are told to "choose life" etc (Deut 30:19). God is paradoxical- He can opperate in opposites without contradiction. As for the grain of wheat- every parable has it's limitations. Revelation and other epistles refer to the New Testament church as God's temple and also us believers personally as His temple; does that mean we need to be made of gold, have doors, sacrifice animals inside ourselves? I think not. We are not grains of wheat, we have a brain, a heart, and a will. His point with the scripture in question was that Jesus was like a grain of wheat in that He needed to die to reproduce; the same goes for us. It wasn't to imply that Jesus, or we, is like a grain of wheat in every way... peace, Bretto Response to James,

Are you talking hyper-calvinism?

Of course we did not choose Jesus, He chose us (John 15:16) however, we are told to “choose life” etc (Deut 30:19). God is paradoxical- He can opperate in opposites without contradiction.

As for the grain of wheat- every parable has it’s limitations. Revelation and other epistles refer to the New Testament church as God’s temple and also us believers personally as His temple; does that mean we need to be made of gold, have doors, sacrifice animals inside ourselves? I think not. We are not grains of wheat, we have a brain, a heart, and a will. His point with the scripture in question was that Jesus was like a grain of wheat in that He needed to die to reproduce; the same goes for us. It wasn’t to imply that Jesus, or we, is like a grain of wheat in every way…

peace,

Bretto

]]> By: james http://www.christisall.org/2008/01/17/unless-you-fall-into-the-ground-and-die-by-brett-jacobsen/#comment-11858 james Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:31:55 +0000 http://www.christisall.org/?p=181#comment-11858 Does a grain of wheat choose to fall? Does a grain of wheat choose to fall?

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