Comments on: Mortify the Arm of the Flesh - Part 7 http://www.christisall.org/2008/06/10/mortify-the-arm-of-the-flesh-part-7/ Making Him Our Focus, His Word Our Foundation Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:39:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Brett Jacobsen http://www.christisall.org/2008/06/10/mortify-the-arm-of-the-flesh-part-7/#comment-21393 Brett Jacobsen Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:20:37 +0000 http://www.christisall.org/?p=201#comment-21393 Hey Lou, Sorry for the tardy response. Firstly, let me say that 1. this series of short articles is for the purpose of helping church goers identify the carnal/not-Spirit-led nature of church constructs and the various aspects of them 2. the last article in the series (not yet posted) will focus more on the answer- "walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfil the lusts of the flesh" etc. So, are we on the same page? I know the reformation that is much needed in the church is first internal but then must bring change to the external. If we submit to the Spirit of Christ and live according to His Kingdom we do well. But if we do not remove the carnal constructs and the man made mess that goes with them we will surely gravitate back to whence we once were. I choose the Spirit of Christ and His Kingdom and therefore I also resist those things which try to push/pull me and others away... no matter how "Christian" they seem. Thoughts? Bretto Hey Lou,

Sorry for the tardy response.

Firstly, let me say that 1. this series of short articles is for the purpose of helping church goers identify the carnal/not-Spirit-led nature of church constructs and the various aspects of them 2. the last article in the series (not yet posted) will focus more on the answer- “walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfil the lusts of the flesh” etc.

So, are we on the same page?

I know the reformation that is much needed in the church is first internal but then must bring change to the external. If we submit to the Spirit of Christ and live according to His Kingdom we do well. But if we do not remove the carnal constructs and the man made mess that goes with them we will surely gravitate back to whence we once were.

I choose the Spirit of Christ and His Kingdom and therefore I also resist those things which try to push/pull me and others away… no matter how “Christian” they seem.

Thoughts?

Bretto

]]> By: Lou Rife http://www.christisall.org/2008/06/10/mortify-the-arm-of-the-flesh-part-7/#comment-20995 Lou Rife Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:20:01 +0000 http://www.christisall.org/?p=201#comment-20995 Brett, We've talked about this before. All you are saying will only makes sense if what I consider "Good News Part II, is understood. If you don't understand this, the point you are making will fall on deft ears. For over 2000 years Constantine's catholic church help perpetuate institutional religion, and still does along with the rest. Reason; is was/is not a church, it is a religio/political system of control/power....just like communism, fascism, etc. You are asking people to understand something that requires a keystone/context for everything else to fit. They must have the fundamental understanding for everything else to fit. You can't explain rock & roll to someone born in 1864, no context!!! Here is our context........Jesus came to earth to do two things: 1. save us. 2. live inside us and RUN our lives for HIS business.........not ours. Phil: 2:12/Gal. 2:20, and there are about 35 other verses. These scriptures have not been unearthed and studied because the will put Jesus back where He wants to be, and it's the place you, me, and others know HE wants to be: on HIS throne in the KINGDOM. Guess what will happen if we let HIM take over????? There will be a lot of religions and people knocked out of their position of POWER/CONTROL, and they will kill to not let that happen. All you have to do is research the catholic church for evidence. In other words, the institutional church looses all grounds to exist...........it goes away........Jesus is left............Praise GOD!! You do not see a lot of ink about Jesus (Holy Spirit) not Holy GHOST, living inside us.Ever wonder why?? THAT IS THE LAST THRESHOLD TO CROSS TO PUT JESUS BACK IN CHARGE......WHO DOES NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.................YOU GUESSED IT....satan! Are we on the same page?? In my personal opinion, we do not need to be running around giving classes on how to effectively use Information Technology to tribes stuck back in the Amazon basin.......might be a little over their head..........think so? I think I know where to start............what do you think? Lou Rife Brett,

We’ve talked about this before. All you are saying will only makes sense if what I consider “Good News Part II, is understood. If you don’t understand this, the point you are making will fall on deft ears. For over 2000 years Constantine’s catholic church help perpetuate institutional religion, and still does along with the rest. Reason; is was/is not a church, it is a religio/political system of control/power….just like communism, fascism, etc.

You are asking people to understand something that requires a keystone/context for everything else to fit. They must have the fundamental understanding for everything else to fit. You can’t explain rock & roll to someone born in 1864, no context!!!

Here is our context……..Jesus came to earth to do two things: 1. save us. 2. live inside us and RUN our lives for HIS business………not ours. Phil: 2:12/Gal. 2:20, and there are about 35 other verses. These scriptures have not been unearthed and studied because the will put Jesus back where He wants to be, and it’s the place you, me, and others know HE wants to be: on HIS throne in the KINGDOM. Guess what will happen if we let HIM take over????? There will be a lot of religions and people knocked out of their position of POWER/CONTROL, and they will kill to not let that happen. All you have to do is research the catholic church for evidence. In other words, the institutional church looses all grounds to exist………..it goes away……..Jesus is left…………Praise GOD!!

You do not see a lot of ink about Jesus (Holy Spirit) not Holy GHOST, living inside us.Ever wonder why?? THAT IS THE LAST THRESHOLD TO CROSS TO PUT JESUS BACK IN CHARGE……WHO DOES NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN……………..YOU GUESSED IT….satan!

Are we on the same page?? In my personal opinion, we do not need to be running around giving classes on how to effectively use Information Technology to tribes stuck back in the Amazon basin…….might be a little over their head……….think so? I think I know where to start…………what do you think?

Lou Rife

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